Venus and Mars placed in the 8th house

Venus placed in the 8th house.

This is a reasonably favourable placement but a bit typical. Venus and Mars get along quite well and he is comfortable in this house. But do check out which sign he is occupying and he is placed here as the ruler of which houses of the chart (i.e.where are Taurus and Libra placed?). This helps in in-depth analysis. Also the strength of the ascendant sign/lord, 8th house lord and Mars.

Venus here is the agent of hoards, relationships and balance in the house of sudden catastrophic identity changes. You can make the most of this combination by consciously initiating changes rather than having them suddenly forced on you.

You will be quite intelligent and well-known in society, but very few people will know the real you. You like discovering secrets, you enjoy this deeply, you are skilled at extracting information. And then you prefer hiding your real self. You will always have secrets and also know how to use them.

You do not follow established religion. You do your own esoteric /spiritual /occult practices and are quite good at these. If you are a woman these tendencies will be more powerful. All professions indicated by the 8th house are possible in this Venus placement, a doctor involved in childbirth or cosmetic surgery, confidential financial work, emergencies, disaster relief, mining and exploration, healers, occultists etc are all possible.

There will always be some irregularities in love affairs and marriage. Relationships may begin and end shockingly? Multiple marriages and secretive relationships are possible. The actual wedding event may be low-profile. The spouse may have occult tendencies or financial abilities which he/she keeps secret. Or the spouse may deliberately keep a socially low profile. If Venus is unable to give good results, the spouse, especially the wife, might suffer with medical problems or have a relatively short life. The spouse and in-laws will be generally charming, fair people. You will be on good terms with them. Spouse’s speech, voice, face and behaviour will be fair and balanced. However all your relationships will have something concealed which can cause problems. You always keep a part of yourself secret in all relationships, and simultaneously your partners will also keep their secrets. Venus in 8th is secretive but not dishonest (unless malefic influences). There will be issues because of this so always try to understand the other before taking a final decision.

Marriage and partnerships will generally give gains. You might marry for money! Legacies and inheritances can come in. However it would be good if you keep a monthly account of earning/spendings to ensure that your financial situation remains comfortable. You keep your financial dealings, money and properties secret. If Venus is afflicted you might engage in shady deals and financial crimes.

Medical problems can be of the blood, kidney, reproductive organs, diabetes, connected to liquids in the body. Death can occur in a highly spiritual place or in a place of pilgrimage. It is generally a long life with an easy death. If the horoscope supports, this Venus can grant Moksh or at least significant spiritual growth.

Venus and Mars placed in the 8th house

 Mars placed in the 8th house.

Mars is the natural ruler of the 8th sign of the zodiac, Scorpio and always exerts his subtle influence on the matters of the 8th in every chart. The agent of life and death, placed in the house of death is not easy and requires careful analysis. A lot will depend on which sign occupies the 8th and Mars as the ruler of which houses is placed here (where is Aries and Scorpio placed). It is a challenging placement but can give good results.

Energy will be high and you perform well in emergency situations. You thrive on high energies. You need the buzz! If you do not get it from your environment, you will then create such energies yourself. But if you are placed in a tense situation you absorb it into yourself and can actually act a calming agent! So go out, engage in physical activity, learn contact sports, drive, feel your blood pounding, channelise your energies in such activities so that you do not explode! This placement labels you as a Manglik‘, so finding a life partner (Indian arranged marriage) can be difficult.

The moral compass may be weak, e.g. might resort to bribery, cheating or manipulate finances to increase wealth. You can gain wealth in from others and from insurance and other such financial schemes. You might be perceived as being untrustworthy and your friends, relatives and brothers can suddenly behave in a untrustworthy manner themselves. Will know several secrets about several things which may be legal/illegal. May be required to take decisions or act on such matters. (However if a debilitated Mars occupies the 8th, he turns into a manipulator and causes problems for himself and others.)

Personal health will be fiery, temper will be high and risk taking behaviour will be the norm. The movement of pran in the body’s energy channels /naadi is highly fluctuating and of high intensity. The body is susceptible to ‘heat’ diseases and diseases of the reproductive organs and blood circulation. If a woman, should take special care during pregnancy and childbirth. Surgeries can happen several times in life. Children will be lesser in number. Longevity is generally on the shorter side, but for this the strength of Mars, 8th house lord, ascendent sign and its lord will have to be evaluated together. Death will be linked to liquids in some way e.g blood disease, kidney/urinary problems, drowning etc or in ‘sharp’ incidents, accidents. However has abilities for energy-healing.

Is passionate, can have affairs before marriage and secretly after marriage. Spouse’s behaviour, speech, wealth, voice and face and his/her family are indicated by the 8th. Wealth tends to increase after marriage and you believe in financial security. If this Mars is well placed then it can be ok, but if you get such a chart for marriage matching do double-check. A badly placed Mars here (aspected by or with more malefics or debilitated, worst would be a Rahu -Mars combination here) can indicate a bad situation for the spouse in every way including physical health/ longevity. A sense of joy/companionship with the spouse will be absent. You tend to dominate your spouse, in-laws and family members.

A Mars in 8th will aspect the 11th, 2nd and 3rd houses. So gains and finances will be good as long as you take personal initiative and interest in them. There might be friction with the family/brothers. This placement is a tough one but if you can channelise your energy appropriately it can be managed well.

Venus and Mars placed in the 8th house

This above was the bare-bones astrological part which you can use for analysing  your horoscopes. But astrology is really Jyotish, the science of Illumination. So here is an esoteric dimension which might interest.

Venus and Mars together are very fascinating forces. Mars is life, death and rebirth, the karmic cycle in which the individual soul moves till he attains Moksh. Mars represents your taking on the body and also your leaving it. The signs Aries and Scorpio are linked in the adversarial 6/8 axis from each other.

Venus is the limit of experience, the limit of Maya. Venus is the natural Marak, he decides when you have completed your karma of accumulating treasures and fulfilled your karma-linked relationships. His two signs, Taurus and Libra are also in the adversarial 6/8 axis from each other. As these two signs are the essence of Maya, the 2nd and 7th houses of your chart also represent Maya. Once you complete your experience of Maya, you attain Moksh, so Venus is the real Moksh-karak.

If you analyse these 4 signs/houses together you will get an inkling of the tremendous forces Mars and Venus represent together. Mars through his natural rulership of the 1st house creates your personality, you are literally born here. You then act/use the energy of the 1st to create the wealth of the 2nd house. If you have acted with a sense of self, the 2nd will be a fruit of your karma (karma-phal), and will be added to your stored karma, i.e. agami/new karma adds to the sanchita/stored karma. If your actions do not have the ‘I’ tag, then this house will represent rebalancing of karma (you do not create more karma and are actively rebalancing the stored hoard).

Now while you are busy creating/rebalancing karma, the energy of your body gets used up. So as the potential of the 2nd house gets realised, the vitality of the physical body diminishes. When you completely realise the potential of the 2nd, you simultaneously completely finish off the vitality of the manifested body thus the physical body dies. Depending on what type of actions you were doing, you will have created more karma or achieved Moksh.

Now in the same way, the 7th and 8th houses also work together. The natural ruler of the 7th is Venus and that of the 8th is Mars. The 7th represents karmic bindings, the other function of Maya. You are required to create and maintain relationships equitably and fairly here. You may call these marriage or business partnerships at the material level, but nevertheless they are bindings on the spiritual level. This 7th house can represent the relationship between you and your body. And the deepest bindings which you have laid on your own soul (the 7 bindings of vice, virtue, weakness, power, passion, dispassion and ignorance). Or finally your relationship with your own Higher Self.

The 8th house represents changes in identity which are caused by complete upheaval. The 8th uses the energy of the 7th to power itself. You get into relationships, experience them, saturate yourself and then transcend. The experience-energy is of the 7th, the House of Change uses this to change you at very fundamental levels. If you have observed yourself carefully through your life, your deepest changes in self-identity are always linked to relationships. Mars as the agent of death/rebirth, uses up Venus’s energy of fairness and balance. And when the potential of the 8th is complete, the deepest relationship of your soul with your present incarnated physical body/environment is also complete and you leave it. Now on the spiritual front if you have experienced each of the 7 bindings to the fullest you transcend them and achieve Moksh.

 

Venus and Mars placed in the 8th house

Tensions in relationships astrologically

There are some periods when you and your wife is going to really be best buddies and you two will have loads of fun together, made for each other types. And then those times when both of you will be so irritated with each other. Nothing will be right and both of you will be in despair.

Tensions in relationships astrologically

Time is everything. If the planetary positions in transit and in Dasha are good to you, you will receive appreciation, love and respect. There will be enjoyable moments which will boost your ego, sense of worth and validation. Your loved one will be with you. Your boss will be happy with your work, your mom happy with your choice of wife, dad proud of your your social position. Your children will actually listen to you, your wife will kiss you, your husband will remember your birthday and you will get gifts. These are times spent with friends and parties. You gain in business and expand your profits. Materially you feel creative and may be blessed with children.

And then you have those periods/Vimshottari dasha of the planetary owners of the houses of turmoil, dushamsthan, 6th, 8th and 12th. The theme of these planetary periods will be a sense of general invalidation, un-love and unworthiness which will result in pain.

As always you have to see the physical manifested reality from the birth chart D-1, emotional context from the birth moon sign and the astral/sub-conscious expectations and potential from the divisional chart D-9, Navamsha. For example Ketu may be placed in the 3rd house from ascendant and 2nd when counted from the birth Moon sign in the D-1 birth chart. And placed in the 7th house in the D-9. So in Ketu’s periods, there will be a physical detachment from cousins, team-mates, trade, communication. This will be felt emotionally as a dissociation from the family resources and interactions. And the astral expectation will be a break in legal contracts and separation in partnerships. So now how you interpret it will depend on the client’s entire chart.

Now to narrow down those planetary periods which can create tensions in marriage. These planets in their periods and sub-periods even sub-sub periods can create a break in the feeling of being ‘loved’ and ‘valued’ by your loved one. If your horoscopes have been matched before marriage these periods will be less intense but no one can escape tiffs in married life.

  1. Open your birth chart, and note the owner of the 12th house.
    • The 12th house when counted from the 7th house is sixth. Sixth from any house is an expression of ‘breaking of partnerships’, ‘unfair alliances’, ‘breakdown of bargains’, ‘accusations’, ‘invalidation’, ‘arguments’ and ‘un-appreciation’ of the matters related to this house.
    • The 12th house counted from the 1st house/ascendant sign is naturally twelfth, indicating a loss in the manifested physical self, confidence, strength, social status etc.
    • So the 12th house lord in his periods will cause tensions in your personal and professional partnerships. Depending on the other factors it can cause permanent breaks, followed by depression, sleeplessness and losses to health, social status, etc which are indicated by the 12th house normally.
  2. Now note the planetary owner of the 6th house counted from the ascendant sign
    • The 6th house is breakage of legal witnessed contracts as always.
    • And this 6th house from the ascendant is twelfth when counted from the 7th house. The 12th house from anywhere represents the losses of whatever is indicated by that house
    • So the 6th house lord will represent the loss of the partnership. Depending on the power of this planet he can pull you upto divorce and dissolution of the alliance.
  3. Now the planet owning the 2nd house from the ascendant sign.
    • It represents the family lineage, treasures, family wealth and all sort of resources available to you.
    • But it also represents the 2nd spouse.
    • And it is the eighth house when counted from the 7th house. The 8th counted from any house defines the sudden, forced, fast and chaotic transformations associated with that house. When the house we are concerned about is the 7th, the 2nd lord can create changes in the ‘love’, ‘value’ felt in the marriage. Then 8th is also secret stuff, so there will be loss of transparency in the relationship perhaps secret affairs. The ‘worthiness’ felt in the lawful marriage may change into a ‘validation’ and ‘love’ experience from the secret paramour.
    • So this planet too has the potential to create tensions in your married life during his planetary periods.

Tensions in relationships astrologically

So now you know what is possibly going wrong in marriage and why. But this is not what we are after, we want to fix things. So this how you get through this period of tensions. Divorce though legal and accepted does not really work on the emotional and spiritual levels. This should be the very last option. Things always change. If you can get through this bad patch, which you soon will as your planetary period changes, you might regret the dissolution. So what can you do to reduce tensions and use this period productively? Shift your focus on something else?

So check the quality of the horoscope. Some of us can survive in a marriage with the barest minimum of ‘love’ expressions. If the Ascendant lord and the Moon are powerful enough such a person can manage on his sense of self-worth and self-love. He won’t need expressions of ‘appreciation’ from his wife. But if these 2 important planets are not able to generate enough self-love it can get quite tricky. In such cases there may be support from the other planets who can compensate by providing validation through the aspects of life that they control.

Check out who can help. The siblings, friends, team-mates, office-mates and your positive thought processes – Mercury. The society, boss, knowing you are doing a good job in the social and professional field – Saturn. The self-ego, the children, taking up higher education and knowing you are creative and confident – Sun. Getting to know yourself and knowing that you are doing your spiritual practice regularly – Venus. Your philosophy, kindness and a sense of humanity which you have nourished by reading books and learning more and more – Jupiter. A sense of detachment which Ketu can confer. And finally a new ambition and new direction in life which Rahu can supply.

There is a time when you need to sit down and talk through things and there is also a time where you have remain silent and let events unfold. You are not defined just by your relationship with your loved one. There is so much more to you. Let the relationship take a back seat and focus on other aspects of life for a while. You will get the appreciation you deserve, always!

No one goes anywhere, least of all your loved one. Times always change, and there is always going to be a Time.

 

Tensions in relationships astrologically

Deaths of loved ones, astrologically

At this present point of time, Jupiter, the agent of expansion is transiting through Scorpio, the natural house of traumatic transformations including death. I am seeing deaths in the families of several of my friends and in my social circle. So thought of writing on how the death of a loved one affects us and our horoscope. You would be surprised to know, it affects us in a positive manner generally, if we could but appreciate it, and take advantage of it. It is a touchy topic but someone has to write about it!

A 30yr old man lost his 26 yr old wife. It was scripted in their horoscopes. In the chart the 7th house represents all sorts of legal partnerships. The wife is the most intimate legal partnership thus her horoscope is linked most strongly to the 7th house. Thus his 7th was, in a way, operating through the lens of her horoscope, and most of the energy of his 7th was being channelized into his relationship with her. It was a highly karmic interaction to be sure, and in these few years of marriage he completed his entire life-time karma of ‘blockages in partnerships’. Now with the house’s energies being free again, his other legal partners are so ready to rush in. He is grieving at the moment, but within the next 6 months his business is going to boom like crazy, he will expand with more business partners, he will also buy a property and his second wife (unknown as of now) will be in partnership with him within the next 1.5yrs.

Deaths of loved ones, astrologically

A 10 month old baby lost his mother. Tragic to be sure, but the baby had completed all his duties to his mother by acting as an energy recharge-station during her illness. This was on the level of the astral and aura exchange, I don’t think anyone but my brother and I noticed it. Ultimately the baby’s aura had gone grey and he was exhausted. Then when he had no more to give, his mother also stopped asking, she went critical and left her body within 2 days. A karma balanced beautifully. And in his horoscope the early death of mother was indicated, and now with this vacuum, his entire family, grandmother, grandfather, uncle and his father are all nurturing him with their maternal love. This is also as per his 4th house combinations. And the child is demanding and accepting this love from all and growing very rapidly. I can see it in his aura, he is barely a toddler but actually is equivalent to a 4year old boy. His birth mother was a barrier to all these other maternal energies which he had to receive from his other family members so her going was scripted. They exchanged as much as they had decided, as per her and his chart and she left. And this child is also due to receive maternal love from another woman, (unknown as of now), who will marry his father within the next 1.5yrs (if he chooses to, individual’s always have a freedom of choice).

A 72 yr old man lost his 71yr old wife. A partnership of 40 odd yrs completed. But as soon as the energies of his 7th became free of the influence of her chart, he found his new partner waiting and welcoming him. His spiritual practice blossomed, with him doing Dhyan for over 4-5 hours daily. His new partnership is with his deity/and ultimately with his own inner self.

I have seen when children leave their homes, to study in college and go to live in hostels, their parents back home the find a ‘replacement’ child rather quickly. The neighbour’s child or some child arrives to receive his share of affection from these parents. The energies of the houses do not like vacuum. There is always an object for the energies of every house at every point of time. These parents feel their love for their son reflected in their interactions with these other children.

If you have experienced your life, not just gone through it mindlessly, you must have realised that we meet people and then lose them quite regularly. School-friends, college-friends, then work-mates, apartment-friends all come and go with regularity. Their karma with you was quite limited and the emotional context not very deep. You might keep in touch superficially with some but generally you accept that when someone goes, someone new turns up to take his place.

There are 12 houses of the horoscope, each signify a type of energy/relationship. They are always present, unbalanced or balanced, directed or mis-directed. There is never a vacuum.

Deaths of loved ones, astrologically

So in life it is inevitable that you will lose your loved ones with time. The loss will be temporary or permanent, and you will deeply feel the loss on an emotional level, intense grief to ‘just missing you’, the entire range of emotions will affect you. Do indulge in these emotions, these are valuable experience. But never forget that when someone leaves, it is because the karma has concluded for that time at least. You and him scripted this event together before you were born. You choose your moment of birth, your horoscope and thus your life-story. And these are the best possible choices you have made to successfully balance your debts.

So grieve, set a time limit and think of your departed loved one with gratitude. Think of all the experiences and times you spent together, learn from them. And with this understanding bid them good bye. When someone departs it is like they are back in the staging room. And you will find that some new energy is to enter your life. Welcome it and work with it.

I have met 2 friends who have a long association through their lifetimes, teacher/student, brother/sister, brothers together, husband/wife, mother/son, father/daughter and even tantrik/willing sacrifice. And they are still together, they argue, they make-up and again bicker, cannot live without each other. Hearing them remember their past lives together has been very enlightening for me, a complete change in perception.

No one goes anywhere.