The toughest Vimshottari Antardasha

Vimshottari dasha system is the most common one which all students of Jyotish learn. In this, the format is a main-period/Mahadasha, sub-period/antar-dasha and further sub-sub periods, a total of 5 levels. The tone of this main-period is further modulated by the subsequent sub-sub periods. This covers the 120yrs of a human life. The Maha-Dashas are Ketu Mahadasha is 7years, Venus mahadasha is the longest at 20 Years, Sun Mahadasha is 6 Years, Moon Mahadasha is 10 Years, Mars Mahadasha is 7 Years, Rahu Mahadasha is 18 Years, Jupiter Mahadasha is 16 Years, Saturn Mahadasha is 19 Years and Mercury Mahadasha is 17 Years.

The important thing in analysing the Vimshottari is analysing the power and the nature of the Mahadasha MD ruler and the Antardasha AD ruler and the interaction between them. (If you are experienced enough you can attempt adding the rulers of the sub-sub periods etc to this analysis too.)

So open your vedic software, input your birth data and check what planet’s MD and which planet’s AD you are in at the present moment. We have to now analyse the relationship between these two planets to get a sense of how this sub-period will be like.

This is our example chart, Aleister Crowley the famous occultist and creator of the Thoth tarot deck, birth details, 12th Oct 1875, 11:43 pm Leamington UK. Suppose Crowley was in Jupiter MD and Rahu AD ie ‘Jupiter-Rahu’ period. Now analyse the birth chart, Cancer ascendant so Jupiter is a functional malefic (he owns the 6th and 9th houses and his mooltrikon sign Sagittarius lies in the 6th house, maha-dusham-sthan). Rahu is a functional malefic for all ascendants.

Birth chart Aliester Crowley

Analysing further. Jupiter is the owner of the 6th house, ie his mool trikon sign lies in the 6th house so he will bring in all the keywords of the 6th house into focus during this period. Ie debts, disease, enemies, arguments, imbalances of all sorts, all one-one relationships will break down, business relationships will also show the strain, spiritual practice will be affected. There will be stress, tension as Jupiter’s expansive abilities will expand the 6th house’s ‘serve or suffer’ motif. He owns the 9th house too, but this is just his own sign not his mooltrikon sign. So there will be some positives with some negatives. He will make Crowley dogmatic, rigid in his opinions, he will not be able to appreciate the others point of view, his teachers, professors, even people whom he considers his spiritual teachers can misguide him. For Cancer ascendant Jupiter cannot give beneficial results outrightly as he owns the 6th house. Some good results from the 9th house can be expected but these will be tainted by Jupiter’s ownership of the 6th house. Jupiter himself occupying the 4th house, Libra, with Mars and Venus. Thus his comfort levels are just average. So the Jupiter MD will not give overall very pleasing results. There will be some high points as the 9th house keywords give some benefits but the 6th house ownership over-shadows it all.

In this we have the Rahu AD, ie the Jupiter-Rahu period. Rahu is occupying the 9th house and with the Moon in Pisces. Any graha in the 9th house is capable of giving good results. Rahu is influenced by Moon and Jupiter. Of these Jupiter is the functional malefic. And Moon as ascendant lord is a benefic. But here we must consider that the Moon-Jupiter in the Shakata yog, 6/8 axis. So Moon and Jupiter are not comfortable with each other, which affects Rahu’s ability to give good results too. So Rahu gains more power to do mischief. And the keywords he will damage are related to the 9th house, Moon and Jupiter. So we cannot expect much good from Rahu during the periods he controls.

Then Jupiter and Rahu are mutually in the 6/8 axis.This is the most traumatic axis for two planets to be in as their energies are sucked up in the vortex of karmic suffering/ catastrophic changes. Both are highly uncomfortable with each other and cannot cooperate to give auspicious results on the physical planes.

So overall this Jupiter-Rahu period would have been difficult for Crowley. (This was a basic analysis, you can add more pointers from the Ashtakvarga charts, the shad-bala values, the navamsha, their nakshtra etc depending on your level of study/experience)

Remedies for combust planets

Now come back to your horoscope,

Check which planets are placed in the 6/8 axis. The MD and AD of these two planets will be the most traumatic ones in your life. Eg if Jupiter and Saturn are placed in the 6/8 axis in your birth chart then Jupiter-Saturn and Saturn-Jupiter periods will cause trouble. Or if Venus and Saturn are placed in the 6/8 axis in your birth chart both the Venus-Saturn and Saturn-Venus periods will be traumatic.

Find out which are the functional malefics in your chart. And if they are adequately supported by benefics or made even worse by aspects from other malefics? Periods ruled by the functional malefics are invariably stressful. Eg in our example horoscope, Cancer ascendant, so Jupiter, Saturn, Mercury, Rahu and Ketu related periods have potential for causing trouble. Eg Now if a Cancer ascendant person is in a MD or AD of these planets then he will definitely face some issues in life during this period. Eg Jupiter-Saturn, Saturn-Jupiter, Jupiter-Mercury, Mercury-Saturn, Saturn-Mercury, Rahu-Jupiter etc all combinations of these planets sub-periods will give stress. The exact source of this stress will be the energies of the houses they own, the houses they are placed in and the houses which they aspect.

Next if the MD and AD ruling functional malefic planets themselves are placed in the dushamsthan. Ordinarily the logic is that malefics in dushamsthan in the birth chart are a good thing. Use a thorn to remove a thorn concept (vipreet raj yog). But a problem arises when the same planet controls two houses, one dushamsthan and one auspicious. In our eg, it is Cancer ascendant, Jupiter controls the 6th dusham and 9th Kona, the Dharmasthan. Or Saturn controls 7th, a kendra house and 8th, a dusham. Here if the malefic planet is placed in a dusham sthan or not supported by benefics then the other auspicious house owned by him also suffers. Eg If in our example, if Saturn were placed in the 12th house, he would reduce the intensity of the 8th house issues but also reduce the auspiciousness of the marriage, partnerships, intimacy, finances, spiritual practice etc. Or if Jupiter is powerless it will reduce the karmic burdens of the 6th house but also reduce the auspiciousness of the 9th house, so the blessings from the ancestors, guidance from teachers, real Learning, progeny, auspicious benefits from past lives, sense of the divine, in fact every aspect of the current life will be affected by ill-luck. This effect on the other auspicious house can be alleviated if this house is occupied or strongly aspected by a benefic. But if this other auspicious house is even more adversely affected by malefic influences then it will be worse.

Finally check the current transit of the MD and AD planets in the skies. If these are transiting through crucial houses of the chart they will have severe impact on you. eg in our example, Crowley is going through Jupiter-Rahu, right now Jupiter is in Capricorn and debilitated (his movement is very weird this year). Rahu is wrecking havoc in Gemini. One eclipse was in Dec 2019 another is due in Jun2020. So Rahu is in his element, causing mischief. So Crowley if he were alive now, he would really have had a bad time just from these two planets activities. And at the last, superimpose the current transits on the birth chart to get an overview on what houses are under stress and which ones can give good results. For Crowley, Saturn and Mars are in Capricorn currently, so a big boost of energy which can be used for growth but he will take his toll on the physical body. ie Saturn return. Sun in Aries is favourable for profession related activities (though he is in the 6/8 axis from the birth Sun) etc and so on.

I hope you use this post to find out the challenging periods in your life and be more prepared to face them. In such potentially adverse periods it is better to remain alert about your thoughts, words and actions. Especially if the karmic heavyweights like Saturn, Rahu and Ketu are involved or planets who control the longer Vimshottari dashas are involved, as actions taken here can have long lasting impacts.


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Ashtakvarga for confirming predictions

The Ashtakvarga chart is of very great importance in Jyotish. And one should make full use of this tool. Checking the effects during transits and strengths of the graha in that sign is just one way of doing this. Here, I am listing out a few more ways you can use this table in making predictions. Ashtakvarga is very simple method, all you need to know is how to read the rows and the columns.

Residence in foreign lands can be easily seen using Ashtakvarga.

‘Foreign’ in astrological terms is a rather loosely defined concept. Foreign residence can mean different things to different people. A person from Chennai shifting to Sri Lanka just a few km across the sea is living in a foreign land. Someone from Maharashtra goes to live in Manipur. Or someone from India goes to USA. All these are examples of foreign residence. Foreign can mean a different town, different state or even a different nation. It basically means a place which is different from your home, in terms of distance or culture or both. The person feels it to be ‘foreign’. Several people want to translocate to foreign locations for better opportunities in life. The horoscope will support if the following houses have potential,

  • 7th house – travelling to to foreign lands
  • 9th house – long journeys
  • 12th house – journeys abroad which result in permanent residence (Rahu in the 12th house is a sure-shot prediction about having to leave the home town)

Calculate the Ashtakvarga or use the software. Then

  • check the total scores of the signs placed in each of the three houses above.
  • If there are any planets placed in these houses check their individual score for that specific sign and also their total score in the last column.
  • All these scores will be the least possible as leaving the home and going to away from it is considered to be an inauspicious effect.

eg. Here is just the Ashtakvarga chart. (I am not giving the rest of the birth details as the person is alive and I do not like using living people as general study subjects, but I wanted to use just this chart.)

The signs in this person’s 7th, 9th and 12th houses are Aries = 22 points, Gemini = 35 points and Virgo = 23 points. Saturn is in Virgo in the 12th house, he has 1 point in Virgo and a total score of a low 39 points. These are all very low scores so the relocation to the ‘foreign’ locations is quite evident. (Except Gemini in the 9th house has the highest score in the table = 35. The reason was because the client had a very strong past life connect with these foreign places, he was bound by the 9th house to go and complete his Dharma there.)

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Confirming longevity

You can confirm the longevity and the quality of life using the Ashtakvarga scores. The following should have good scores,

  • the ascendant sign’s total, this is crucial.
  • the planetary lord of the ascendant sign wherever he is placed should have a good score in the sign he is placed in. The total score of this planet should be high. This too is crucial.
  • any planets placed in the ascendant sign should have good scores in the sign. And the total score of that planet also should be good. This will play a supportive role.

Verify this logic with your client’s charts, it will always be correct.

  • The average total for a sign is 28 points, if there are more points obviously the sign and its house is going to give good results. If there are less than 25 points, it is a cause for concern. Less than 20 and the sign is practically annihilated.
  • The average for a planet in a sign is 4 points. If he gets more points, he will naturally give more auspicious results. If his points are 1 or 2 he is unable to do so.
  • In our example above, the client’s Asc-Libra has 27 points, less than average but not too bad. Venus has 3 points in the sign he is placed in, its less than average. Venus has a total score of 52 points, this one is good at least. We can expect him to have a reasonably long life but there will be physical issues cropping up from time to time.

Predicting sudden rise and falls in life is easy using the Ashtakvarga charts. 

In our example, we can see that Capricorn = 32 points, Aquarius = 18 points and Pisces = 30 points. So when a planet transits from Capricorn to Aquarius whatever he signifies will go suddenly downhill, the client should be careful during this time. And when the planet again transits from Aquarius to Pisces there will be a sudden rise in that planet’s stuff. This prediction can easily be tallied using the Moon’s transits, he transits the zodiac in one month. (eg in one such transit the client managed to quarrel with his wife so seriously that it led to a temporary separation, there were other factors of course, but this Moon’s transit was the precipitating factor.) The falls especially can be dangerous and the client should be prepared and careful. This sudden rise or fall is even more dramatic if the totals are the exact 18 and 36 points, the minimum and the maximum possible scores.

If you get clients who have fallen ill suddenly or in serious accidents or sudden loss of wealth, sudden crash in relationships etc check out their Ashtakvarga table for confirmation and further predictions.

The dread of the Sadi-Sati

The transit of Saturn through the signs placed 12th, 1st and 2nd from the birth Moon sign are called the ‘Seven and Half’ years of torture, the ‘Sade-sati’. To check out how severe the Sade-sati is going to be for you, open your Ashtakvarga table and note the sign occupied by the birth Moon, the sign before and after it. (Remember the Ashtakvarga is about signs not houses, do not confuse yourself while noting down the points.) Now check out the following

  • The total points of each of these three signs. If these scores are less than 25 it is bad and its even lesser you are going to have a dreadful time. But if these scores are more than 30 points, your Sade-Sati will actually give you pleasing results!
  • Now see the individual score that Saturn has in these signs. if its less than 2 consider it to be a testing time, but if it is more than 6 it can give gains. The scores 3 to 5 are considered to be somewhat average.

Saturn can cause significant physical and mental stress even when he is not doing his Sade-sati. In our example above,

  • Saturn (though the Yogkarak) damaged the client’s body and caused severe stress in his profession when he transited Virgo (Saturn+Virgo = 1, Virgo= 23).
  • Before that when he transited Aries (Saturn+Aries = 1, Aries= 22) he caused disappointments in his education.
  • Now the prediction for Saturn’s effect on the client’s life. Saturn will transit Capricorn soon from Jan 2020. (Saturn+Capricorn = 7, Capricorn= 32). The client will see a sudden rise in his profession and gains (we just saw how to predict sudden rise in life). Then next Jan 2022, Saturn will transit Aquarius (Saturn+Aquarius = 2, Aquarius= 18) this client will go through a sudden fall in luck and will have to face stress in life unless he is strongly prepared to deal with with what will come. Saturn’s next transit through Pisces will offer only generic relief because though Pisces=30 a good score, Saturn+Pisces = 1 is an abysmally low score.

So as you can see, the Ashtakvarga table is a very useful item. You can use the total values of the planets and signs and also the individual values of the planets in the different signs to gain a clear idea of what kind of results they are going to be giving in life. So whenever you predict using the birth chart, do glance over the Ashtakvarga tables, this will be an additional confirmation step which will improve the accuracy of your predictions.


Ashtakvarga for confirming predictions


Delayed or denied marriage

You will get clients who have questions related to marriage. When will they get married? Or will they ever get married? There are a few typical combinations where marriage can be delayed or denied. You will need the exact time of birth. The birth chart, the birth Moon chart, the navamsha chart and the Ashtakvarga are required. (If birth time is not available, use the Prashna system. You can use the current moment’s chart, its Navamsha etc).

Delayed or denied marriage

Some of the factors linked to marriage,

Things to see from the birth chart –

  • Venus is the natural ruler of the 7th sign of the zodiac, so naturally his power to give results must be examined. He is the natural ruler of all types of relationships.
  • The 7th house is the most important house of legal partnerships. The planets placed or aspecting here will influence marriage matters.
  • Similarly the lord of the 7th house has to be examined. These above factors will give the physical results related to marriage.
  • Libra is the natural 7th house of the zodiac, so check if there are any adverse impacts on it. These will be subtle effects modifying the physical situation.
  • Role of the 5th house and its lord is rather limited, this represents ‘glamorous self-centred love’, not marriage. But you can use the information from this house. Eg ‘love affairs’ which did not lead to marriage. Or ‘broken-heart’ situations, where the 5th house’s unfulfilled romance changed the person’s mindset against formal marriage. A very strong 5th house can indicate that the person is a genius, a celebrity, a star and not interested in the partnership of marriage.
  • If the entire Dharma trikon, ie the 1st, 5th and 9th house/lords of the chart is very powerful, the person may remain unmarried because of a very dominant personality, focussed on the self, which is very comfortable with himself.
  • In rare cases, a 8th house/ lord if heavily influenced by malefics can also deny marriage as this house represents the family of the spouse. A 8th house which can give auspicious results gives a good relationship with the in-laws and the spouse’s family is well-off.
  • Finally and most importantly, power of the ascendant sign, ascendant ruler and the birth Moon. If these three factors are well placed and give auspicious results, problems in the chart are reduced in intensity. Eg the person may not get married but the mental worry and physical hardship of living the life alone will not exist. The personality, the environment, the ‘fitting in’ and the emotional states are robust.

’Examine’ means to check out every influence on the planet/houses we have identified above. eg Venus, the sign he is placed in, the condition of this sign’s owner and his interaction with Venus (eg if they are in the 6/8 axis it will give some discomfort). The planets together with or aspecting Venus. All this from the birth chart also called the 1st divisional chart. Do this for all the planets/signs we have identified.

  • Malefics, benefics, neutral planets conjoint or aspecting. Especially look for involvement of Saturn, he delays/denies.
  • Exalted, debilitated, in maran-karak sthan. Is the planet in the sign owned by a friendly, enemy or neutral planet.
  • Retrograde, combust, or involved in graha-yuddha/planetary wars.
  • Hemmed in by malefics, ie the houses on either side of the planet have only malefics, this gives unfavourable results. Or hemmed in by benefics which gives good results. (Hemming in of the 7th house by malefics, ie the 6th and 8th houses contain malefics generally denies marriage and gives a good professional life.)
  • Exchange of this planet with the owner of the 6th or 8th or 12th houses.
  • If the planets in the horoscope are concentrated in fiery and earthy signs only, it can delay/deny marriage or grant childlessness.

Every influence will give its result, nothing gets cancelled out. Intensity may vary, depending on aspects and placements, but something of the effect will be there. (Eg one chart I know has an auspicious Venus with Ketu in the 5th house, aspected by a well-placed 7th house ruler from the 11th house. This person had two marriages. She married her current husband a few years after death of the first. Both were well-known, powerful and rich. Both marriages were pleasant experiences with a spiritual angle.)

Delayed or denied marriage

The Moon chart –

Now turn around the birth chart so that the Moon and his sign are counted as the 1st house. Examine the 7th house from this Moon. This sign and its lord will give the astral, emotional and comfort levels of the married state. Malefic influences here can impact the marriage event itself. Examine the position of Venus relative to the Moon, if it is in an uncomfortable axis, it will reduce the auspicious nature of the marriage event.

The Ashtakvarga table –

Open the Ashtakvarga table and check out the power of the planets which we have identified above to give results. (Two posts on how to analyse the Ashtakvarga, here and here).

Navamsha chart –

Next open the Navamsha or the 9th divisional chart. The Navamsha is analysed in comparison with the birth chart. Look for the following at least,

  • You have identified the signs in the 1st house and 7th house from the birth chart. Now check if any planet gets placed in these signs in the D-9. If malefics occupy these signs in the D9, it is unfavourable.
  • You have identified the planets (placed in or aspecting) connected to the 7th house from the birth chart. In addition there are 4 planets, Venus, ascendant lord, 7th house lord and Moon. Locate these planets in the D9, in which signs are they placed? Note these signs and open the basic birth chart again, locate these signs in the birth chart, which houses do these signs occupy in the birth chart? If these signs occupy the 6th house, 8th house or the 12th house of the birth chart, then the concerned planets are unfavourable.

Now we have identified a lot of points which are linked to the marriage event, some of them are bound to be there in the client’s chart. As a basic idea, if there are more than 5 of these points in the chart you are examining, consider it as case of delay and with every additional point it can become a case for denial of marriage.

Dasha and Transits

In addition the transits and Dasha-s have to be examined to get a complete picture. Marriage is possible only during Dasha periods of the planets involved in the marriage potential as we have identified above. In addition this has to be supported by favourable transits influencing the 7th house. In delayed marriages, this favourable time comes late in life. In denied marriages it does not occur in the life-time.

‘Marriage’ from an astrological point of view is a Karmic and Dharmic bond willingly accepted by a man and a woman in front of a witness. The witness can be the law of the land, a ritual, the Agni/fire, Sun, deity, priest, society or even the person’s internal conscience. The energies of the two link at the deepest energy levels as a Dharma-pati and Dharma-patni. it is a Sanskar., there is no concept of divorce, this lasts till one of the two physically leaves the body. However there can be multiple marriage events in one lifetime.

In these times, where the profession and personal life style is becoming more important, marriage is not mandatory anymore. People opt for romantic liaisons, flings, live-in relationships often with no children. So you might see more clients with delay/ denial of marriage in their horoscopes. And there is nothing wrong about not getting married. But in the long term, the existence of a solid society and robust traditions/culture still depends on the institution of marriage.


Delayed or denied marriage